Horde Guild, Draenor, EU


Suboptimal is an evening raiding guild on Draenor focused on blending a relaxed, friendly and supportive culture with productive raiding.


About Suboptimal:

Suboptimal is an evening raiding guild on Draenor focused on blending a relaxed, friendly and supportive culture with productive raiding. We want to have fun in raid, and that means pushing as far as possible into Mythic in Dragonflight, whilst having a positive atmosphere and an appropriate dosage of banter! If you are looking for a stable raiding home, we might be for you :)


Raid Times:

  • Wednesday 21:00-23:00 server time
  • Thursday 21:00-23:00 server time
  • Sunday 21:00 - 23:00 server time

SOCIALS WELCOME! We are very happy to welcome new people into our community :) Our non raid events are open to everyone, join in as much as you wish and let's have some fun!

Other Content:

M+: For us, Mythic + is an exciting part of WoW’s PvE endgame, and so this content is fully supported by the guild. We really want to see groups running and are particularly interested in applicants who want to be involved in guild M+ runs, or even form organized teams.
Collectors: We are very interested in organizing events for in game collectors, with one of our guild leaders being particularly heavily involved in those activities, so if this is your thing, we’d love to meet you!
Other Games: We are more than happy to connect players who play other games and provide support for people in our community to game together.


If you have any questions or would like to chat, please reach out to either Drakshal#2292 or Athenacorn#2517 on

Sepulcher of the First Ones
11 / 11
11 / 11
1 / 11
Sanctum of Domination
10 / 10
10 / 10
1 / 10
Castle Nathria
10 / 10
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6 / 10


  Raid Night
  Thursday   ➜ 2.5 hours


Trialling WIth Suboptimal:


All trials will be assessed for a period during progression, looking at performance and personality fit. We expect that applicants wanting to join the team straight away will have some raid experience, although Mythic experience is not necessarily expected. Players with good potential, the right mindset and a willingness to improve with us are more than welcome as long as they can perform at the level required. Once someone has passed their trial they will become a core member of the Raid Team, with a consistent spot for as long as they continue to perform at the level required for progression.


We Are Looking For Raiders Who:

  • Are willing to get involved in our community and contribute to a positive and lighthearted atmosphere
  • Have a strong progression mindset and drive to improve
  • Are knowledgeable about their spec and seek out up to date information
  • Attend consistently (sometimes things come up though, that’s fine :) )
  • Be open to take on and give feedback
  • Respect each other’s time

Death Knight Death Knight
Death Knight Frost Death Knight Unholy
Demon Hunter Demon Hunter
Demon Hunter Havoc
Druid Druid
Druid Balance Druid Feral
Hunter Hunter
Hunter Beast Mastery Hunter Marksmanship Hunter Survival
Mage Mage
Mage Arcane Mage Fire Mage Frost
Monk Monk
Monk Windwalker
Paladin Paladin
Paladin Retribution
Priest Priest
Priest Shadow
Rogue Rogue
Rogue Assassination Rogue Outlaw Rogue Subtlety
Shaman Shaman
Shaman Elemental Shaman Enhancement
Warlock Warlock
Warlock Affliction Warlock Demonology Warlock Destruction
Warrior Warrior
Warrior Arms Warrior Fury